Requirement to remort

[renegade]

More of a request than a suggestion I suppose but thought it was worth a throw of the dice.

As we all know, pre-wipe a remort cost you 15 of the finest QP's. I would like to know if DM's and players alike feel that this is still a reasonable amount or if the requirement should be lowered.

Helm, Mess and Co do a hell of a lot of work "out of game" to make RD a nice place to spend time and the efforts are much appreciated, combined with a small thing called "having a life" obviously limits time that can be spent running quests etc.

So....

1) Is the current cost of a remort viable to most players on Rd (talking spending approx 16hrs per week on Rd, lots of players spend more but 16hrs is a fair wedge of time in my book)? It would not be unlikely for someone to play 16hrs per week all year and not get enough QP to remort.

2) what possible alternative methods could there be of either raising the chances of gaining QP or changing the cost of remort?

regards

Ren

*Edit - changes 20 hrs to 16

[The Messiah]

Good thread. I'll have to munch on the propositions...

[mardok]

I know that when i played enough to get a remort my wife had this fixed glare of, your playing again? I think 10 or so would be a good number....

[Helm]

The number used to 5, years ago, but that ended up with everyone having 5-6 remorts. The system isn't meant to be elitist, but it has to be difficult to achieve. 5-6 is too many. At last wipe, not counting DMs with free remorts, the most remorts for any player was like 4-5, but that was only a handful. These were the players who were logging 100's of hours a month (like Tony, Mara, Ren, ect). I actually fully agree that their needs to be a better system, as I always felt bad for guys like Silence who logged considerable hours but always seemed to miss the quests. There's several problems --

1) It needs to be MOSTLY reward based. This implies being on when I'm on (since I run 75% of the quests), or Arioch is on. Unfortunately were both EST (as well as Messiah and Xoch). Before we jump up and down about new DMs, we have a full team. (I'm just not sure where they are....LOL).

2) Who's doing the work. I've challenged the other DMs and even the players to help more. I hate to sound rude, but if people want any REAL traction on some of these ideas they need to take the design to the next step. I'm still working out bugs in the PW, working on the vault system, and working on men-at-arms. (and remodeling a kitchen). I quite frankly don't have time to take bits and pieces of 50-post threads and piece them into a conceptual design and then into a working module. For example, I challenged Glog like this and he sent me a 4 page whitesheet on a proposal for PvP rewards. I think it needs some work AND some actual development, but he's on the right page.

So, if someone has an idea for QP and remorts, develop it to the finest detail and submit it.

[renegade]

Ok then here is my suggestion - simple and available to everyone

Allow remorts to be purchased for either/or a combination of QP and Gold!

Keep the requirement at 15QP (possibly less if DM's agree or depending on how many peeps remort) or the equivalent amount of Gold.

I would suggest a value of 1,000,000 Gold = 1QP. I think in the current bagless farming climate this is a VERY fair price for a QP.

Example 1)

Player gives DM 15,000,000 Gold to remort

Example 2)

Player gives DM 7,000,000 Gold and 8 QP to remort

Basically everyone can farm, regardless of timezone so no one is in anyway disadvantaged.

Also when the PvP scoring system is finalised perhaps one of the rewards could be points for QP/gold.

[Sun Wukong]

I would like to suggest another option: How about making Exp a requirement, and dropping the QP level - e.g. Perhaps down to 5 QP, (or the equivalent in GP) but also have a minimum Exp of 1,000,000? This will encourage level 40's to be on more, providing more opportunities to PvP and group. Otherwise, we will see characters reach level 40, then drop out of sight except for Quests and Boss runs. I like the idea of seeing more level 40s running around, and Exp is not transferable ... so you gotta run play those level 40's you built.

[niphredil]

i really like that idea kevin. especially since it promotes grouping, which as i mentioned in another post, is really the essence of a PW (well, PvP too D:)

[Hecate]

kevinkctan said:

I would like to suggest another option: How about making Exp a requirement, and dropping the QP level - e.g. Perhaps down to 5 QP, (or the equivalent in GP) but also have a minimum Exp of 1,000,000? This will encourage level 40's to be on more, providing more opportunities to PvP and group. Otherwise, we will see characters reach level 40, then drop out of sight except for Quests and Boss runs. I like the idea of seeing more level 40s running around, and Exp is not transferable ... so you gotta run play those level 40's you built.

nice idea.

[Ael'Thas]

I like the idea of the 1.000.000 exp needed to remort... however - we all know that at level 40 most mobs dont give out that much xp anyway and it is rather boring to spend another 50 hours leveling just so you can remort...

IMO the xp for a PvP kill should be raised considerably - and to avoid spam killing ppl - maybe make the script give you lets say 800 xp for the first kill, 700 for the second, 600 for the third... down to zero - and the script would reset at every server reset

Or something like that, cant think of anything better atm

[Mephisto]

renegade said:

Ok then here is my suggestion - simple and available to everyone

Allow remorts to be purchased for either/or a combination of QP and Gold!

Keep the requirement at 15QP (possibly less if DM's agree or depending on how many peeps remort) or the equivalent amount of Gold.

I would suggest a value of 1,000,000 Gold = 1QP. I think in the current bagless farming climate this is a VERY fair price for a QP.

Example 1)

Player gives DM 15,000,000 Gold to remort

Example 2)

Player gives DM 7,000,000 Gold and 8 QP to remort

Basically everyone can farm, regardless of timezone so no one is in anyway disadvantaged.

Also when the PvP scoring system is finalised perhaps one of the rewards could be points for QP/gold.

This is actuly a really cool idea but leaves room for flaw like being in a Clan and ur Clan pooling together to get your remort for the next Sickning pvp build to step foot on RD.. as a player yes i would love to be able to Buy QP..However from an economy side of things would Remorts really still be earned.

[Tino the magnificent]

I like the idea of using Gold to buy remorts......alot of us don't have the flexebility to be on for the questies and such.....

I know I personaly farm my ass off all the time and want a Remort because I have earned it, alas, i don't have the qps.....

lets say 1 mill Gold = 1qp

the only thing i am sugesting that is diff is; if u use Gold for remort u must reach 1 mill XP in order to do it.......if u are using only qp u can remort anytime after lvl 40......

juss my two cents on it, as it seemes this thread is alive once again

[Hecate]

tino said:

lets say 1 mill Gold = 1qp

you can always buy one for that price. At least that was the "going rate" pre-wipe. As far as the other alternatives, clan QP pool, buying/trading. These are all viable options & numerous people have used them in the past.

[Dragon Sage]

I like the idea of being able to purchase part of your remort. Pre wipe I was never able to remort. I've worked really hard to accumilate QPs this time around but I know theres peeps out there with like 30+ just waiting for remorts to come out. I know that theres still are a lot of players who are on odd timezones who rarely or never see quests. I say there should be a way to help them out.

[Tino the magnificent]

okay, i've been hearing diff things on line and stuff......

minor and major remorts? major lvl slower??

how many qp it take to remort?? 5? 10? 15? ......i've heard diff things

did anything get decided on buying qps for remort?.....or was it descused and swept under the rug??

suggestion: for the purpose of getting more qps for those of us that are never on when quests happen....how about trading in boss gear for qps?? less say max 5, 10, 15...depending on cost of remorts.....so, if remorts cost 5 then max 5 qp, etc.

also, i know mara said already that if QPs are sufficient then and u have a lvl 40 u can automaticaly remort after wipe......i propose that this is held to a max of one automatic remort, as there are some people able to make every quest and have 30+ QPs

i'm not suggesting that the qps be lost, i'm only saying one automatic char remorted.....the rest will have to be brought up to 40 like normal then the remort can happen....

so, tell me what u think folks........

peace, Tino

[Hecate]

how many qp it take to remort?? 5? 10? 15? ......i've heard diff things

15 @ lvl 40. 1 QP extra for every lvl below that.

i'm not suggesting that the qps be lost, i'm only saying one automatic char remorted.....the rest will have to be brought up to 40 like normal then the remort can happen..

I may be the only one, but I am confused by what you're proposing. Are you saying that only one remort per login?? Or are you saying that every login should get one remort??